There are still four individuals occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Two are from Idaho. Over the weekend, their sheriff talked to them on the phone.

Idaho County Sheriff Doug Giddings — who is no stranger to pushing the limits of legal behavior — made contact with the Malheur holdouts on Saturday, the Lewiston Tribune reports (pay site).

Those holdouts include Sean and Sandy Anderson of Riggins. Sean gained world-wide notoriety after this video was published on a anti-government website:

If you can’t stomach the video, here’s part of the transcript.

“There are no laws in this United States now. This is a free-for-all Armageddon. If (law enforcement officers) stop you from getting here, kill them!”

As top law enforcement officer of Idaho County, Giddings offered to help the FBI talk the Andersons into ending the siege, which is fine.

But when the Trubine asked what he thought about the Andersons, Giddings told the Tribune:

I don’t call (them) radical,” Giddings said. “He’s just in support of the folks that are fighting with the (Bureau of Land Management) and the land grab that they’re taking all the ranches over there. He went over there to support them. He didn’t go over to get into trouble. He’s not a radical militia – he’s just a guy.”

Sheriff Doug Giddings

What’s a guy gotta do to get called a radical around here?

While it’s commendable for Giddings to help out his constituents, it’s odd that a law enforcement officer would take such a laissez faire attitude toward a man who tells people to kill law enforcement officers.

What’s more, it seems odd to say that he didn’t go to Malheur to get in trouble. The Tribune reports that he recorded his will before grabbing an assault rifle and heading to the center of the militia universe.

If that’s not looking for trouble, what is?